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		<title>This is a response to: Code Geass R2 25 For Dummies, or It‚Äôs not the horse cart, stupid: The ending explained</title>
		<link>http://not.dotq.org/2008/09/29/this-is-a-response-to-code-geass-r2-25-for-dummies-or-it%e2%80%99s-not-the-horse-cart-stupid-the-ending-explained/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[1400-word post approaches. I debated whether to post it in a comment on the original post by Owen or to put it here on my site; indecisive like the little shit I am, I&#8217;ll DO BOTH. Cross-posting ftw. Suzaku holding a sword foreshadows Lelouch&#8217;s death, Lelouch&#8217;s death by sword penetration is foreshadowed from day one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1400-word post approaches. I debated whether to post it in a comment on <a href="http://omaemo.dasaku.net/2008/09/30/code-geass-r2-25-for-dummies-or-its-not-the-horse-cart-stupid-the-ending-explained/">the original post by Owen</a> or to put it here on my site; indecisive like the little shit I am, I&#8217;ll DO BOTH. Cross-posting ftw.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Suzaku holding a sword foreshadows Lelouch&#8217;s death,</p></blockquote>
<p>Lelouch&#8217;s death by sword penetration is foreshadowed from day one by the fact that the series is by Sunrise. Don&#8217;t kid yourself.</p>
<blockquote><p>(re: Nunnaly by Lelouch&#8217;s side) I wonder what this means.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a disconnect for me, here. Nunnally wasn&#8217;t actually by Marianne&#8217;s body when she died, she was placed there after the fact. Furthermore, Marianne didn&#8217;t CODE RESURRECT, she geassed a convenient bystander. You say that she lives on through her geass and that Lelouch lives on through his code/ideologies, and while I agree with the latter part, I don&#8217;t see Lelouch ever getting a code. Charles grabs him, but can Charles pass on the code? It seems like this part of your post relies on a wobbly understanding of wobblier yet metaphysics. </p>
<p>Also, Lelouch most importantly lives on in the memories of those around the scene of his death (Karen, the black knights, Suzaku, Nunnally) whereas the only people who witness Marianne&#8217;s death are Anya (memory wipe) and V2 (dead, dead, dead). (Anya regains her memories, I believe, but I&#8217;d argue that this is inconsequential because she only knew Marianne as the queen&mdash;they weren&#8217;t buddies or lovers or anything.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see you bring more &#8220;original&#8221; reasons to the table as for why Lelouch is still alive (the shops of the horse cart were seriously an embarrassment) but I&#8217;m not convinced.</p>
<p>Curiously (to me), you didn&#8217;t address a number of problems with him being alive:</p>
<p>1. <b>Suzaku cried</b></p>
<p>This <i>might</i> be explained by &#8220;he&#8217;s never going to be able to chill with his buddy again,&#8221; but if he&#8217;s becoming Zero he can probably do whatever he wants in secret, like going out and meeting his friend (a parallel can be drawn to Jonathan leaving Saul&#8217;s castle to meet David in secret). I guess another <i>possible</i> explanation is that he really wants to kill Lelouch for real, and knows Lelouch will resurrect, and is pissed about that. But then the impaling wouldn&#8217;t have been so lovey-dovey.</p>
<p>2.<b> C2 cried</b></p>
<p>Presumably, because the one guy who treated her with love and care (I was about to say &#8220;loved her&#8221; but then I remembered Mao and his &#8220;BUT YOU WON&#8217;T FIT IN CARRY-ON!!&#8221;) in all her memory (I think it&#8217;s safe to phrase it like that&mdash;she may have been loved at some point, but she does not remember it) is dying. There are some other possible reasons for her tears:</p>
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<li> she can&#8217;t die because Lelouch already has a code now (from Charles?) &#8211; but as you said, this is unlikely, she wants a good life before no life.</li>
<li>she&#8217;s crying for all the people whom she knows love Lelouch and are about to lose him (she respects Karen et al&#8217;s love for Lelouch). This seems -almost- plausible to me, since she&#8217;s kind of a good person, but the whole prayer thing doesn&#8217;t interface well.</li>
<li>the last&mdash;and only decently reasonable alternate reason for her tears, as I see it&mdash;is that they are tears of happiness. She&#8217;s immortal, Lelouch is immortal, they love each other. This would be a fulfillment of Lelouch&#8217;s promise in Episode 25 of season 1 (&#8220;I&#8217;ll become the warlock to your witch&#8221;). If this is the way things are, then I&#8217;m super-happy for both parties. I&#8217;m skeptical, though, because her face as she cried was not the face of someone who&#8217;s ecstatic.</li>
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<p>I suppose that both of the above problems (Suzaku&#8217;s tears, C2&#8242;s tears) can be answered with a simple &#8220;they didn&#8217;t know about Lelouch having received Charles&#8217; code,&#8221; but that&#8217;s baloney. They&#8217;re far more likely to know than we are, after all. C2&#8242;s in touch with these kinds of things and can sense pretty much whenever Lelouch so much as <i>uses</i> his geass&mdash;there&#8217;s no way, as far as I can tell, that she could not know about it. As for Suzaku&#8230; he was Lelouch&#8217;s best friend. The only one he could confide in. He knew everything about the grand plan. And Lelouch said that this was a &#8220;punishment&#8221; for Suzaku. It wouldn&#8217;t be a punishment if Suzaku weren&#8217;t bearing the weight of killing and becoming the hero (another blog made a really good note about this, I forget which, but it was something like &#8220;Lelouch became the sacrifice Suzaku always wanted to be&#8221;).</p>
<p>3. <b>If Lelouch received a code from Charles, it&#8217;s just as likely that Lelouch passed that code onto Suzaku</b>. </p>
<p>Another thing with Suzaku becoming Zero&mdash;Lelouch mentions &#8220;forever&#8221; in his sentence for Suzaku. This can be literal or figurative. Figurative is &#8220;you will live out your life under the curse of my geass.&#8221; Literal is &#8220;you are immortal forever.&#8221; We know that his &#8220;live&#8221; geass defies reality as we know it. Maybe it&#8217;ll make Suzaku live, literally, forever?</p>
<p>But it can&#8217;t be that, because Suzaku could just have Jeremiah ungeass him if he wants.</p>
<p>BUT there&#8217;s still the possibility that it could have been literal&#8230; because Lelouch could have passed Charles&#8217; code onto Suzaku! It&#8217;s <i>just as likely</i> as Charles giving V2&#8242;s to Lelouch. One might even argue that it&#8217;s <i>more</i> likely, because while you&#8217;re drawing a lot of implications out of midair for that Episode 21 scene, Lelouch actually says something about Suzaku living forever.</p>
<p>Of course, if Lelouch is passing a code onto Suzaku, he&#8217;s not going to be reborn.</p>
<p>4. <b>Is rebirth via code at-will?</b></p>
<p>We see C2 bite the bullet a few times, and she always comes back. This is the immortality granted by the code. She&#8217;s always back, fully regenerated, within <i>minutes</i> of dying. Consider this: Lelouch is killed by Suzaku. The crowd goes wild. The crowd rushes the hostages. The crowd surrounds Lelouch&#8217;s corpse. He&#8217;s not going to just stand up and walk away. Also, people would see to his burial. He would need Zero-esque smoke and mirrors to up and vanish (pink smoke bombs, Knightmares busting out of the pavement, etc.). I think it&#8217;s safe to assume that he&#8217;s there, dead, corpse-like.</p>
<p>Does he resurrect later? Can he choose when or when not to?</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s how the code immortality works. This belief of mine is based on the fact that not once in the series did someone in possession of a code time-delay their resurrection. If there&#8217;s a more reliable source that shows otherwise&mdash;like, an interview with the creators that goes along the lines of &#8220;lol we don&#8217;t define our metaphysics well for a REASON, didn&#8217;t you know? teehee~&#8221;&mdash;I will kneel before the irrefutable proof. And by irrefutable, I mean that Problems 1-3 will still be problems.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for my major qualms with him being alive, I think. One more little note, since you so thoroughly enjoyed saying &#8220;x in scene a is like y in scene b, get it? get it?&#8221; in this post: Suzaku, who stands at the top of the ramp down which Lelouch&#8217;s corpse falls, takes Lelouch&#8217;s place, &#8220;becomes&#8221; him in a sense by becoming Zero. Lelouch, who stands at the top of the stairs down which Marianne&#8217;s corpse falls, takes nothing from Marianne but her hair, eyes, and aptitude for maniacal laughter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d make a witty tl;dr note, but then you&#8217;d think I was imitating you.</p>
<p>P.S. my question for you in IM that I didn&#8217;t get to ask was something like, &#8220;you _do_ realize that I haven&#8217;t even said anything critical about your post, right?&#8221; You kept slamming my negative reaction to your post before I even had one. And I still don&#8217;t have one&#8230; your post is well-thought out and heavy on the &#8220;going to the text&#8221; technique which is key to good discourse. I applaud it. But applause is different from agreement. I think you base too much on the idea that Charles gave a code to Lelouch&#8230; which, as I noted, is just as likely as Lelouch then passing it on to Suzaku. Or to Nunnally, even.</p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, I don&#8217;t care that Lelouch is driving the cart. This is done very often in many anime I have watched. Kanon did it by having a fox (Makoto) walk through a forest in the ending. Sola did it by leaving cans of tomato juice on a picnic table. Higurashi Matsuri ends with a cg of Hanyuu sitting on a porch. It doesn&#8217;t mean anything.</p></blockquote>
<p>This previous comment was to good not to quote. Amen. It&#8217;s the anime thing, you know? Tons of shows do it, and it never means anything.</p>
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		<title>Sixten on Night Switch, or: baby don&#8217;t troll me, don&#8217;t troll me, no more</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it turns out that this Sixten guy&#8212;creator of Miao diary, lover of perverse things&#8212;is not only lolicon and gay (yes, at the same time, somehow, see: wants to j-j-j-jam it into Jason), but he is also a fairly high-level troll. One day I&#8217;m in DotQ&#8216;s admin panel by chance and I see a new [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it turns out that this <a href="http://houseofsixten.com/heartscontents">Sixten guy</a>&mdash;creator of <a href="/aniblogger-creations-will-the-real-jason-miao-please-stand-up">Miao diary</a>, lover of perverse things&mdash;is not only lolicon and gay (yes, at the same time, somehow, see: wants to j-j-j-jam it into <a href="http://anime.miao.us">Jason</a>), but he is also a fairly high-level troll. <span id="more-403"></span></p>
<p>One day I&#8217;m in <a href="http://dotq.org">DotQ</a>&#8216;s admin panel by chance and I see a new comment in moderation. This is pretty infrequent (as noted <a href="http://omaemo.dasaku.net/2008/08/26/the-disappearance-of-cruel-angel-theses-melancholy/#comment-2587">here</a>, I&#8217;m even more unpopular now than I was half a year ago so it&#8217;s like, negative comments time), so I&#8217;m curious and I investigate. Lo and behold, it&#8217;s a pingback! On the <a href="http://dotq.org/night-switch">Night Switch page</a>! From&#8230; Sixten?!</p>
<p><img src="http://flak.dotq.org/skitch/wtfwtf-20080924-035501.jpg" style="max-width:100%;" alt="wtfwtf" title="I came a little" /></p>
<p>And I&#8217;m like, &#8220;whoa!&#8221; I&#8217;m like, &#8220;since when did people I insult acknowledge me?!&#8221; I&#8217;m like, &#8220;doesn&#8217;t this guy suck Jason&#8217;s cock nightly? Surely he must know to avoid me! How come I&#8217;m not IP banned on his site yet? Is there something wrong with his brain? Clearly Jason hasn&#8217;t scrambled it enough! Anal penetrations moar plzplzplz!!&#8221;</p>
<p>When I was over my initial squeeing, I actually read the post.</p>
<p>(Some more serious and respectful comments on his post can be found in <a href="http://dotq.org/2008/09/24/night-switch-minus-joe-receives-love">a post on Dreams of the Quill</a> that I&#8217;m writing at the same time as I&#8217;m writing this. Seriously. This post isn&#8217;t my official response to Sixten&#8217;s post, it&#8217;s just classic notdotq-style vitriol and idiocy.)</p>
<p>Upon reading, I immediately become livid. The guy begins his post by not knowing who I am (&#8220;he (she?)&#8221;), which is unacceptable. He also misspells my handle&mdash;&#8221;LoliKitsune&#8221; instead of &#8220;lolikitsune.&#8221; He then goes on to namefag me (&#8220;I suspect Flak and LoliKit are the same person&#8221;), as if it&#8217;s the most natural thing in the world. On second thought, I suppose it <i>is</i> natural, for him. After all, it&#8217;s his idol Jason who was kind enough to namefag Pete Zaitcev.</p>
<p>Sidenote: I don&#8217;t portray myself as a loli kitsune. What&#8217;s in a name? </p>
<p>Would not a troll by any other name be as odorous?</p>
<p>Sixten concludes the introduction of his post with a demonstration of his illogic. He &#8220;decided it was time to read it&#8221; after Flak (I), whom he suspected was lolikitsune (me), posted an idiotic comment on his blog whoring Night Switch. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t read anything whored in an idiotic comment by someone who (appears to be) <abbr title="see what I did there? burn crosses!">spamming in the name of</abbr> (<i>important side note: the different handles exist for compartmentalizing of online life and internet spheres, not for tricking people into thinking I&#8217;m legion</i>). Even if it had to do with Jason Miao. Never. Wouldn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Unless, you know, I was trying to get trolling fodder.</p>
<p>Anyway. After this introduction, Sixten launches into a synopsis of various aspects of Night Switch. He describes the background of the story as he sees it (he&#8217;s neither too wrong nor too correct for the summary to be full of idiocy or full of spoilers, respectively), and then has a paragraph for three of the characters in the story, complete with ILLUSTRATIONS.</p>
<p>Yeah right.</p>
<p>There is no way this guy has enough time on his hands to read all of Night Switch, draw pictures, AND blog about it in under twenty hours. That&#8217;s right&mdash;I made my comment less than twenty hours before this blog post went live. There are two possibilities here: he&#8217;s either a liar or a NEET. In the first scenario, he&#8217;s actually been reading Night Switch for some time, and the illustrations have been sitting on his computer waiting for the day I would foolishly waltz into his blog and comment. In the second scenario, he actually does have that kind of time on his hands.</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
<p>(Some of the information in his character descriptions is less than accurate&mdash;this is addressed in the aforementioned &#8220;<a href="http://dotq.org/2008/09/24/night-switch-minus-joe-receives-love">official response</a>&#8221; on Dreams of the Quill.)</p>
<p>Oddly enough, Sixten&#8217;s three selected characters don&#8217;t have a 100% overlap with the story&#8217;s three main characters. He chose to highlight JTFish&#8217;s Pedantic Dachshund character instead of the story&#8217;s hero, Amtrak worker and religious fanatic Joe. Well, good on him for ignoring the boring characters I guess. The Geass-toting dog is definitely more interesting than the Tetris-obsessed, people-hating Joe.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where it gets REALLY good, though: after these summaries of plot and character, Sixten analyzes the story a bit. Here&#8217;re some choice quotes:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Unlike Miao Diary, which is mostly styled after fluff anime, Night Switch borrows plot points from more <i>serious</i> and dramatic shows such as Nanoha and <i>Code Geass</i>.&#8221; <i>(emphasis mine)</i></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s right. He said it. Well, I can only hope for one thing: that he&#8217;s only seen two episodes of Code Geass. Any more than that, and he&#8217;s just laughing his ass off at me here. Code Geass? Serious? It&#8217;s like he&#8217;s calling Night Switch a slapstick routine. (Speaking of which, Suzaku slapped Lelouch&#8217;s stick in Episode 24 of R2. That was hot.)</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;As LoliKitsune pointed out, Night Switch is better than Miao Diary &#8211; it&#8217;s not a self-insert, wish-fulfillment, mo√© vehicle like that story featuring Jasmine.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Here he uses a masterful trolling technique known to inspire Troll&#8217;s Remorse in lesser trolls. He turns my own cruelty against me in an attempt  to make me regret my callous remarks. Thankfully I&#8217;m not susceptible, and I stand by my claims that Miao Diary is nothing more than a more modern Megatokyo (read: horse excrement). But still, it&#8217;s the thought that counts, as they say. Sixten really tried to drive it into me here.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s as well-written as Jason&#8217;s scripts for Heart&#8217;s Content&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A nail in the metaphorical coffin, here he compares the quality of my product to the quality of Jason&#8217;s. I&#8217;ve read AoMM on and off for three years now (on when I wasn&#8217;t banned, off when I was) and I have never thought anything special of Jason&#8217;s command of the English language. Now, you might say I&#8217;m not one to talk. I&#8217;m a high school graduate. My writing is far from what I would call &#8220;good.&#8221; I don&#8217;t grammar well. My active vocabulary is often inadequate. But you don&#8217;t need to be a good writer to tell a bad one, and I can tell Jason is bad. Horrendously so.</p>
<p>Actually, if my writing is at the level of his, it might be time for me to pull <i>my</i> Megatokyo move.</p>
<p>/me strips, then reaches for lighter fluid and matches</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;f Miao Diary is a strawberry marshmallow, Night Switch is a meal of rice, meat, and vegetables. Read it today for a balanced diet.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What<br />
the<br />
fuck<br />
is<br />
a<br />
strawberry marshmallow?!</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Sixten is a formidable opponent. He even made a <i>cover</i> for Night Switch, pictured below. And of course, it lacks Joe. Poor Joe. Never gets any love. I think that&#8217;s why he turned to Jesus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.houseofsixten.com/stealth/cannonpost/nightswitch.jpg"><img src="http://www.houseofsixten.com/stealth/cannonpost/nightswitch.jpg" alt="night switch cover by sixten" style="width:200px;" /></a><br />
<small><i>(That&#8217;s right, bitch, I hotlinked that.)</i></small></p>
<p><b><u>Majime na Lolikit</u></b><br />
Sixten, you rock. &lt;3</p>
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		<title>Author‚ÄîI&#8217;m not buying the Lucky Star DVDs</title>
		<link>http://not.dotq.org/2008/05/12/author%e2%80%94im-not-buying-the-lucky-star-dvds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ani-nouto.animeblogger.net/2008/05/12/lolikitsune-on-lucky-star-again/"><abbr title="actually, I was trolling Owen">Fuck</abbr> <abbr title="I don't like Lucky Star">profanity</abbr>, I <abbr title="How could I like Lucky Star?">want</abbr> to <abbr title="You must not know who I am.">live.</abbr></a></p>
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