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		<title>A Fundamental Difference Between Myself and FrostyHurricane</title>
		<link>http://not.dotq.org/2009/05/28/a-fundamental-difference-between-myself-and-frostyhurricane/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[7:26:22 AM IcyStorm: sob ;_; 7:26:23 AM IcyStorm: http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/05/28/rape-games-are-now-banned-in-japan/ 7:26:30 AM lolikit: lol wut 7:26:31 AM IcyStorm: lol @ Krauser-sama comment 7:26:32 AM lolikit: no way 7:27:04 AM lolikit: oh god Rapelay 7:27:10 AM lolikit: i was just thinking about it yesterday 7:27:46 AM IcyStorm: i PLAYED it yesterday 7:27:47 AM IcyStorm: lololol 7:27:50 AM [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7:26:22 AM IcyStorm: sob ;_;<br />
7:26:23 AM IcyStorm: <a href="http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/05/28/rape-games-are-now-banned-in-japan/">http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/05/28/rape-games-are-now-banned-in-japan/</a><br />
7:26:30 AM lolikit: lol wut<br />
7:26:31 AM IcyStorm: lol @ Krauser-sama comment<br />
7:26:32 AM lolikit: no way<br />
7:27:04 AM lolikit: oh god Rapelay<br />
7:27:10 AM lolikit: i was just thinking about it yesterday<br />
7:27:46 AM IcyStorm: i PLAYED it yesterday<br />
7:27:47 AM IcyStorm: lololol<br />
7:27:50 AM lolikit: &#8230;<br />
7:28:04 AM lolikit: See, this is a fundamental difference between the two of us.</p>
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		<title>lolikit Gallery Up Again; also, A Challenge to CCY and the Aniblogosphere</title>
		<link>http://not.dotq.org/2008/10/27/lolikit-gallery-up-again-also-a-challenge-to-ccy-and-the-aniblogosphere/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey. I&#8217;m hosting porn again. Porn of myself. As I have given myself over entirely to the whoreside, I am now going to be pimping my lolikit Gallery. Any and all fanart of the lolikitsune character/avatar/mascot (whatever you want to think of it as) will be placed on that page. Four things to remember: lolikit&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. I&#8217;m hosting porn again. <a href="/rule-34" title="repository of lolikit fanart">Porn of myself</a>. </p>
<p><span id="more-625"></span>As I have given myself over entirely to the <a href="http://not.dotq.org/tag/a-certain-whoredom-index" title="A Certain Whoredom Index">whoreside</a>, I am now going to be <i>pimping</i> my lolikit Gallery. Any and all fanart of the lolikitsune character/avatar/mascot (whatever you want to think of it as) will be placed on that page. Four things to remember: <i>lolikit&#8217;s sex is ambiguous on purpose</i>, lolikit is not necessarily a girl; <i>lolikit always makes a :3 face</i>, until <abbr title="I might be open to 'despair' and 'fucked silly'">further precedents are set</abbr>; <i>lolikit can be colored in whatever way you want</i>, there are no canon colors; and lastly, <i>if possible, lolikit should be flipping off the camera</i>.</p>
<p>Knock yourselves out!</p>
<p>Especially&#8230; (beware my mad powers of segue) anyone who wants to help <a href="http://m3.dasaku.net" title="HAI SENPAI">CCY-senpai</a> out with his latest undertaking!</p>
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<blockquote>What undertaking?</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote>His aniblogosphere visual novel!</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote>Ehh?</p></blockquote>
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<p><i>Dat&#8217;s right.</i></p>
<p>CCY-senpai is going to be making a visual novel involving the anibloggers you all know and love, and it&#8217;s going to rock. He says he&#8217;s got grand ambitions, and that it&#8217;ll be on a larger scale than <a href="http://not.dotq.org/2008/09/04/so-i-finally-played-renai-blogger">Ren&#8217;Ai Blogger</a>. In order to accomplish his dreams, reach his goal, and say &#8220;gao&#8221; for the eleventh time, he&#8217;s going to need help from the community. So decreeeth the lolikit.</p>
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<blockquote>HOLD IT! I haven&#8217;t even decided to go through with this yet!!</p></blockquote>
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<p>Hah! Silly Senpai, I&#8217;m making this post in order to <i>force</i> you to do it! Just think about it: once the aniblogosphere as a whole learns of these fanciful ideas, it will band together to become a demanding wannabe consumer&mdash;in short, it will thirst for your product. Driven by your greed for recognition, you will deliver. Then I (and my <a href="/tag/owen" title="Owen">PR guy</a>) will sit back and think to ourselves, &#8220;subete wa <strike><abbr title="wrong PR guy">kukuku</abbr></strike> keikaku doori.&#8221; There will be much delicious caek, and Regional C.O.s around the <strike>mind</strike> world will fap it.</p>
<blockquote><p>5:31:43 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">CCY</span>: But hell, art and music are a problem for a different time<br />
5:31:54 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">CCY</span>: Mainly because I suck at those<br />
5:31:59 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: hahaha<br />
5:32:00 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">CCY</span>: But there seems to be enough talent<br />
5:32:04 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: there is</p></blockquote>
<p>Creators of the &#8216;sphere, I implore you!</p>
<p>Pester CCY-senpai, molest CCY-senpai, rape CCY-senpai, whatever it takes. I want this VN to happen. I want it to exist. I want to be able to play as a faceless, nameless protagonist (Senpai: idea: the protagonist should be a long-time blog reader. <i>First-time commenter.</i> <b>HAR HAR.</b>), and get the polyamory ending with myself and Jason Miao. Think about it: lolikit x Jason x. Nothing better than that, right?</p>
<p>Actually&#8230; the possibilities seem very real, and quite&#8212;</p>
<p>Excuse me. I must tend to some biological needs right now. There will be more posts on this topic, that I promise. CCY-senpai needs to make this game, and for all of our sakes, we need to help him out. The first step is to convince him to go through with this, and the second step is to help him as he goes by contributing our talents to him.</p>
<p>That is all. My hands are needed away from the keyboard now.</p>
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		<title>Everything has a time and place; everything includes trolling</title>
		<link>http://not.dotq.org/2008/05/18/everything-has-a-time-and-place-everything-includes-trolling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lolikitsune</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning, I was talking to Mike on GTalk. I recommended a book to him and he couldn&#8217;t believe it. &#8220;Are you trolling?&#8221; he asked suspiciously. &#8220;You&#8217;re trolling, aren&#8217;t you.&#8221; I sat at my screen like this O_______O and then he added, &#8220;you always troll me.&#8221; No, I wasn&#8217;t trolling him. I had no reason [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning, I was talking to <a href="http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net">Mike</a> on GTalk. I recommended a book to him and he couldn&#8217;t believe it. &#8220;Are you trolling?&#8221; he asked suspiciously. &#8220;You&#8217;re trolling, aren&#8217;t you.&#8221; I sat at my screen like this O_______O and then he added, &#8220;you always troll me.&#8221; No, I wasn&#8217;t trolling him. I had no reason to be trolling him. Beware, LOG COPYPASTA after the jump. So why don&#8217;t you kill me.</p>
<p><span id="more-290"></span>I recently finished writing what I thought was a <a href="http://not.dotq.org/?p=289">fairly lulz post</a>. It contained graphs, it contained invectives, it contained a loli fox. Positively pleased with myself, I pinged my darling kouhai-kun <a href="http://omaemo.dasaku.net">Owen</a>.</p>
<p>Following this conversation are my thoughts on trolling.</p>
<blockquote><p>9:35:08 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: hey<br />
9:35:10 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: i made myself a mascot<br />
9:36:42 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: gj<br />
9:37:13 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: :D<br />
10:30:00 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: http://not.dotq.org/?p=289</p></blockquote>
<p>While not exactly a win, the conversation hadn&#8217;t gotten off to a terrible start. Owen&#8217;s usual bored-sounding &#8220;gj&#8221; was, as usual, easy to dismiss.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:51:53 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: you&#8217;re.. post whoring a worthless post</p></blockquote>
<p>Captain Obvious here thinks that it&#8217;s breaking news or some shit that the average post on notdotq is worthless.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:51:59 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: :o<br />
10:52:03 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: all my posts are worthless<br />
10:52:06 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: what do you expect</p></blockquote>
<p>Captain Obvious #2 explains this.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:52:20 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: p.s. I will not take you seriously until you not take mike seriously<br />
10:52:23 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: bai</p></blockquote>
<p>Needless hate. I mean, we all hate on Mike a little (c&#8217;mon, dubs = slavery!) but uh, this comment came straight out of left field and had nothing to do with the post in question, in which I had <i>made fun of Mike</i>. Taking him seriously? I do that sometimes, mostly in direct conversation, but notdotq takes close to nothing seriously. The list is short, at least: Aria, and this post I&#8217;m writing right now.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:53:03 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: p.s. you are a mean asshole, don&#8217;t hate, we can all be friends, etc.<br />
10:53:05 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: seriously<br />
10:53:12 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: like, seriously seriously<br />
10:53:13 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: please<br />
10:53:21 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: don&#8217;t be such a fucktard :(</p></blockquote>
<p>In classic immature lolikit style, I bitch and moan. </p>
<blockquote><p>10:55:04 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: wait<br />
10:55:06 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: let me summarise</p></blockquote>
<p>At this point, I roll my eyes. Owen is going into his self-righteous &#8220;I am more intelligent than you are&#8221; mode and, while usually this mode amuses me, I am not in the right mood for it.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:55:23 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: a) you are failing massively, not mike pretentious levels, but Drm CRAZY RETARD levels of failure</p></blockquote>
<p>Drm is another buddy of mine, Owen. He&#8217;s a good guy and he&#8217;s nice and he&#8217;s funny. Unlike your asshattery&mdash;you&#8217;re not making anyone laugh when you send me IMs like this. This is important, and I will get back to it after I&#8217;m done dissecting the conversation.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:55:34 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: b) you are confusing what I write on my blog with what I say to you on IRC</p></blockquote>
<p>Until this point, no one has mentioned Owen&#8217;s blog.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:55:49 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: c) i.e., you are mixing your personal life with your blogging one</p></blockquote>
<p>Neither my interactions with other anibloggers nor my aniblogging is at all related to my personal life. My aniblogging, on the other hand, is interaction with anibloggers. I still don&#8217;t see where Owen&#8217;s blog is playing into all this, and that makes the &#8220;i.e.&#8221; even more mystifying: what are you trying to say, Owen? And why don&#8217;t you just say it?</p>
<blockquote><p>10:56:05 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: d) my last BLOG post was a huge success, if comments are anything to go by</p></blockquote>
<p>Again with Owen&#8217;s blog. I have no idea why he&#8217;s bringing it up. Still. There&#8217;s the possibility that he&#8217;s flaunting e-penor but there&#8217;s no reason for him to be doing so.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:56:24 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: e) I randomly insult you on IRC like I do everyone else because I&#8217;m bored</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. This is true. And? It seems like a string of non-sequiturs. Owen tells me later to use my brain and figure things out, and I consider myself decent at that, but I can&#8217;t make anything out of his comment here. We&#8217;re not talking about IRC. We&#8217;re not talking about Owen&#8217;s blog. We&#8217;re talking about a post I made that Owen called worthless, and we&#8217;re talking about my visceral reaction to his latest slur on Mike.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:56:38 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: f) confusing my IRC behaviour for blogging is a failure on the mike level</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently Owen is failing &#8220;on the mike level&#8221; because not only was he the one who brought up his IRC behavior&mdash;and not only was he the one who brought up his blogging behavior&mdash;but he was the one who assumed they had been confused. Were lolikit Owen and Mike lolikit, Mike would tell lolikit to stop projecting.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:56:52 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: and uh, when did i say anything about your blog?</p></blockquote>
<p>I can take this nonsense no longer, and call him on it.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:56:58 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: g) bringing this personal grudge/QQ/True_Tears thing to a blog post is a failure on the Drm level</p></blockquote>
<p>He keeps right on going, insulting Drm again and this time mentioning something about a personal grudge. Grudge? Grudge? I&#8217;m lost.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:57:07 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: sorry<br />
10:57:15 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: there is nothing whatsoever in that post that indicates otherwise</p></blockquote>
<p>My &#8220;brain&#8221; has told me that these lines are meant to answer my, &#8220;when did I say anything about your blog?&#8221; There&#8217;s no other reason for him to say sorry (if he&#8217;s flaming the shit out of me, he&#8217;s flaming the shit out of me). If I&#8217;m correct, then his answer is ambiguous at best and terribly worded at worst. And, English aside, &#8220;that post&#8221; (my post) says <i>nothing about Owen&#8217;s blog</i>.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:57:46 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: in other words, I see how mixing with mike and Drm has&#8230; strengthened your intellect in ways I would have never thought possible!</p></blockquote>
<p>Beautiful sarcasm.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:58:01 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: thanks for that, but
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<p>Beautiful Sarcasm.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:58:12 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: you&#8217;re totally conflating what i said<br />
10:58:17 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: continue to be on the defensive</p></blockquote>
<p>I point out that Owen has no idea what he&#8217;s talking about. He tries to push buttons. It&#8217;s almost as if he&#8217;s&#8230; trolling.</p>
<blockquote><p>10:59:12 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: can i ask for some clarification?<br />
10:59:23 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: nein<br />
10:59:26 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: ok then&#8230;<br />
10:59:29 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: go use that thing between your ears and behind your eyes<br />
10:59:31 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: I need sleep</p></blockquote>
<p>After giving it some thought, I decide not to reply directly but to see if he&#8217;d be willing to clarify something for me (specifically, how his blog came into the picture). He says no and then tells me to use my brain. <em>I&#8217;ve been using it,</em> I want to shout. <em>I&#8217;ve been using it and it can&#8217;t decipher your bullshit.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>10:59:39 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: I hope to wake up to non-failure lk<br />
10:59:41 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: &#8230;<br />
10:59:43 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span><br />
10:59:59 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: there&#8217;s never been a moment when you&#8217;ve thought of me as non-failure, but this isn&#8217;t about me, it&#8217;s about mike</p></blockquote>
<p>I try to bring him back on-topic because he&#8217;s so far gone in his realm of IRC, blogging, and sleep that he seems to have forgotten what the topic is. This uh, this doesn&#8217;t work too well.</p>
<blockquote><p>11:00:06 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: no<br />
11:00:07 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: i don&#8217;t know how your blog got dragged into the picture by you<br />
11:00:08 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: but<br />
11:00:11 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: all i&#8217;m saying is<br />
11:00:12 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: be nicer<br />
11:00:17 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: in case you haven&#8217;t noticed<br />
11:00:19 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: don&#8217;t call people shit for chilling with friendlies<br />
11:00:33 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: your writing fails so badly that you don&#8217;t even bother to elaborate on what you just told me!</p></blockquote>
<p>And here&#8217;s some classic throwback to Arjuna. He talks at me. I talk at him. My words don&#8217;t reach him and his don&#8217;t reach me. In a last-ditch attempt at objectivity, I won&#8217;t try to call any shots on who&#8217;s right or wrong here, or on why one or the other of us doesn&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s being said by the other. Just uh, I don&#8217;t understand what he said, or why he said it, or how he doesn&#8217;t understand what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<blockquote><p>11:00:36 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: this isn&#8217;t irc, this isn&#8217;t a good forum for trolling</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll get back to this after I&#8217;m done dissecting the conversation.</p>
<blockquote><p>11:00:39 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: please go and fix your post and I will be happier<br />
11:00:48 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: what/1<br />
11:00:52 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: fix my post? fix it how<br />
11:01:03 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: by making it clear you&#8217;re talking about the person and not the blog<br />
11:01:05 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: because hey guess what<br />
11:01:10 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: what the fuck is wrong with it, it&#8217;s standard notdotq&mdash;<br />
11:01:14 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: all of the people you mentioned in your post have anime blogs</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I never would have guessed that the people mentioned in a blogpost on a meta-aniblog were anibloggers! Also, because &#8220;all&#8221; the people mentioned are anibloggers, I have no idea who Owen&#8217;s talking about! It could be DS, it could be CJ, it could be Author, it could be Baka-Raptor, it could be Mike, it could be me&#8230; or it could be Owen. </p>
<p>Lightbulb! or something.</p>
<p>So in my post, I said something about his blogging behavior which was fail and incorrect. But wait&#8230; not only was there not a single link to Owen&#8217;s blog in my post, but the post wasn&#8217;t even tagged Cruel Angel Theses! Moreover, he&#8217;s a renowned IRC troll, and he trolls the notdotq comments: this is Owen the person, very clearly. So I&#8217;m back to the drawing board with figuring out how and why Owen&#8217;s blog behavior/success figures into anything</p>
<blockquote><p>11:01:26 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: anyway good job, good job, I see mike is doing a fine piece of art with you<br />
11:01:53 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: obviously the so-called legend of intellectual osmosis is a myth</p></blockquote>
<p>More insults from the internet hate machine.</p>
<blockquote><p>11:01:56 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: oh. oh. so<br />
11:01:58 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: *isn&#8217;t<br />
11:02:02 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: you&#8217;re worried<br />
11:02:06 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: no<br />
11:02:06 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: that people reading my post<br />
11:02:11 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: will think that i think<br />
11:02:12 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: I think that was a shit post on mike levels<br />
11:02:14 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: that your blog is full of trolling<br />
11:02:15 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: that is all<br />
11:02:26 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: no<br />
11:02:31 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: it&#8217;s just mike-wankery.<br />
11:02:35 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: but carry on LOL</p></blockquote>
<p>I pose my line of reasoning to Owen and he dismisses it, telling me that my post sucks like Mike. Flattering to all involved no doubt.</p>
<blockquote><p>11:02:46 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>, it&#8217;s exactly the same as any other post on notdotq in which i have graphs<br />
11:02:59 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: nothing more nothing less<br />
11:03:02 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: continue telling yourself that<br />
11:03:11 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: &#8230;<br />
11:03:44 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen</span>: please stop replying to me, I&#8217;m going to bed for much needed sleep</p></blockquote>
<p>The post in question really is standard notdotq fare: I ring up some stupid wannabe-internet-drama premise, post some graphs, insult some people, and then close up shop with an attack on Mike. Nothing to see here, folks. And yet. Owen thinks&mdash;it really is sub-par? It really is &#8220;Mike level&#8221; ? (And that&#8217;s not to say that Mike is a bad anime blogger. I&#8217;m making no such assertions at the moment. But in Owen&#8217;s eyes, Mike is crap, and he&#8217;s comparing the post to that&mdash;thus, insulting my post.)</p>
<blockquote><p>11:03:49 AM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: oooookay, one  question before i just stop talking to you: are you being an ass liek on irc, or are you being serious?</p></blockquote>
<p>At this point, Owen seems to just be running off his mouth with no real purpose. Kind of like in IRC. Kind of like when he&#8217;s trolling, yeah? So I pose a question that needs answering. So I pose the question, and Owen? Owen doesn&#8217;t answer it. He goes off, to bed. Or something.</p>
<div style="font-weight:bold;text-align:center;font-size:150%;">trolling, its benefits, when not to do it</div>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve learned to do in analyzing things is to look at one possible path and follow it all the way to its conclusion. Then to go back and look at another possible path. One reason for Owen to be acting the way he was on MSN could be that he was trolling me. Another could be that he really thought there was something objectionable in my post. Another is that despite all his assurances that he&#8217;s just poking fun of me in his posts and on IRC, he does actually dislike me and wants to be an ass.</p>
<p>The third is extremely unlikely&mdash;he has no reason to dislike me; I&#8217;ve been nothing but kind to him, and I&#8217;m his Kamina etc. etc. Or whatever. Even if he likes me less than he used to, there&#8217;s no incentive to be a bitch to me.</p>
<p>The second makes no sense. I stand by what I said before: it was standard notdotq fare.</p>
<p>Let us now examine the first.</p>
<p>Trolling. Why does Owen do it? Why does anyone do it? It&#8217;s fun to elicit reactions. We troll when we&#8217;re bored. We troll for the lulz. Trolling in IRC makes sense. You make more people laugh. Trolling on forums makes sense. You incense more people. Trolling in comments makes sense. It makes the post author feel important. Trolling in blog posts makes sense. You get seen by people. Basically, trolling is about &#8220;control control control&#8221;&mdash;it&#8217;s about influence.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trolling Mike this morning because there was no point for me to do so; we were chatting one on one and I was trying to spread information to him. Personally, I see no point in trolling in that kind of environment. A one-off joke, sure, but a line of douchefaggery that accomplishes nothing and affects only one person?</p>
<p>If Owen was trolling, he was only pleasing himself.</p>
<p>And that&#8230;</p>
<p>.. is the <i>worst</i> kind of troll.</p>
<p>I love your blog, Owen. And I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s successful, or whatever. I don&#8217;t know what that has to do with this. I&#8217;ve used my brain&mdash;I&#8217;ve jotted down thoughts, I&#8217;ve done <i>everything</i> within my power to comprehend why you&#8217;ve just proved to be an ass. I&#8217;ve done everything within my power to figure out what I&#8217;d done wrong, or why you thought I did anything wrong. I will not fix my post.</p>
<p>I hope, however, that you get over your petty grudges against Drm and Mike.</p>
<p>I hope that you learn that everything has a time and place. That everything includes trolling. That trolling having a specific time and place means that there&#8217;s a time and place that <i>does not</i> accommodate trolling. Think before flaming. Use <i>your</i> brain for once. Your blog isn&#8217;t the world; you&#8217;re not an awesome person just because a post about Lucky Star garnered more than fifty comments. Being able to write e-penor-enhancing editorials on a blog is one thing. Being able to write meaningless pseudo-intellectual invectives in a chat window is something else.</p>
<p>I hope&mdash;that you stop failing.</p>
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		<title>I was going to wait for the OVA, but Owen‚Äî</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230; it looks like the gig&#8217;s up. Owen and I were having a heated discussion following my reading of and commenting on his latest post&#8212;one about the unforgivably terrible TV series &#8220;Lucky‚òÜStar.&#8221; Eventually, the conversation degenerated into this: [...] 5:50:54 PM lolikitsune: [...] different strokes for different folks 5:50:54 PM Owen S: yeah 5:50:58 PM [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; it looks like the gig&#8217;s up.</p>
<p><span id="more-281"></span>Owen and I were having a heated discussion following my reading of and commenting on his <a href="http://omaemo.dasaku.net/2008/05/09/the-lucky-star-ova-slice-of-life-comedy-for-dummies-or-how-to-not-suck-at-anime-appraisal-this-summer/">latest post</a>&mdash;one about <a href="http://minoru-dan.dotq.org/about/index.php?n=About.LuckyStar">the unforgivably terrible TV series &#8220;Lucky‚òÜStar.&#8221;</a> Eventually, the conversation degenerated into this:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>[...]</i><br />
5:50:54 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: [...] different strokes for different folks<br />
5:50:54 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: yeah<br />
5:50:58 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: for example you like lucky star<br />
5:50:59 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: i don&#8217;t ;)<br />
5:51:08 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: you wrote that you did<br />
5:51:10 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: I checked the archives<br />
5:51:11 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: ?!<br />
5:51:12 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: you fucking liar<br />
5:51:16 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: that was SARCASM<br />
5:51:19 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: you fucking DIPSHIT<br />
5:51:21 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: under your rake-star category<br />
5:51:26 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: FUCK YOU YOU TSUNDERE LIAR<br />
5:51:29 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: FUCK YOU<br />
5:51:31 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#733;">lolikitsune</span>: are you ever going to pass Reading Comprehension?!<br />
5:51:33 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: YOU SAID YOU LIKED EPISODE 11<br />
5:51:35 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: SERIOUSLY, TOO<br />
5:51:43 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: IT WAS A MAJIME NA LOLIKIT THING TOO<br />
5:51:44 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: FUCK YOU<br />
5:51:45 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: FUCK<br />
5:51:46 PM <span style="font-weight:bold;color:#373;">Owen S</span>: YOU
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<p>I checked <a href="http://not.dotq.org/?cat=48">my archives</a> like Owen suggested, and lo and behold: <a href="http://not.dotq.org/?p=237">there it was</a>!</p>
<blockquote><p>Lucky Star 11&mdash;alright. Alright. <em>I&#8217;m sorry</em>. There it is. I&#8217;m admitting my mistake, just as predicted by the comment-leavers on my first Lucky Star post. Yes, I enjoy the show. I skip the OP every time and enjoy the jokes, and the dad is awesome. Kona&#8217;s dad that is. And yeah, I mean it. He&#8217;s awesome. It&#8217;s always the dads&mdash;Bleach, Shuffle!, Tsubasa Chronicle, Romeo x Juliet&#8230; it&#8217;s always the dads.</p></blockquote>
<p>It makes sense that this went unnoticed and that I managed to keep up my Lucky Star hating thing. At the time I made this post, 100% of my fans thought this blog was dead. I was on hiatus on <a href="http://animenano.com">ANO</a> and I wasn&#8217;t active in IRC. I had previously declared my intention to leave the aniblogosphere. Except that&#8230; wait&#8230; is that some Owen in the comments? It is! </p>
<p>Alright. *</p>
<p>I can admit my mistakes.</p>
<p>I can accept that the gig&#8217;s up.</p>
<p>Yeah, I liked Lucky Star. No, I won&#8217;t concede on the points made in my <a href="/?p=210">landmark Lucky Star post</a>. They still stand. Just, Lucky Star turned out to be enjoyable. The comedy was decent and the slice of life aspect&mdash;while I won&#8217;t agree 100% with Owen on the count&mdash;was present and pleasant. Kyoto Animation is still a gaggle of prostitutes, Ayu is still <abbr title="someone like me who preaches The History of Love really needs to get over something like this">an impossibility</abbr>, Haruhi is still total shit. And I won&#8217;t apologize.</p>
<p>Lucky Star was enjoyable. For Minoru and <em>his</em> Lucky Channel. For Minoru and his ED song and dance routines. For the non-self-referential parodies that were funny. For the little tidbits that made me smile.</p>
<p>* <i>That&#8217;s not fucking alright!!!</i></p>
<p>Owen, <a href="http://not.dotq.org/?p=256">you adorable fuck</a>, you played me. You took me like some kind of passive object and stuck your prodding devices into my beproddation sockets. You knew all along&#8230; you knew all along that I liked Lucky Star. And yet you refer to arguments of mine&mdash;that I probably didn&#8217;t make! And yet you refer to the critic me&mdash;who probably doesn&#8217;t exist! You fooled me, and you fooled me well. Somehow, reinforced by your insistence that I was wrong about Lucky Star, my absent-minded trolling metamorphosed into a conviction that I loathed Lucky Star, that you knew I loathed it, that I loathed it, that you knew that, that I sucked at defending my points, that I hated Lucky Star and that maybe that was because I say the same thing over and over again with decreasing levels of coherences?!</p>
<p>Look.</p>
<p>The point is: don&#8217;t do that shit.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t fuck with me. I&#8217;ll fuck you back and you&#8217;ll learn to fear it. I&#8217;m not even legal yet, you know. I&#8217;ll make you the perpetrator. I&#8217;ll make you suffer. I&#8217;ll tarnish your family name for generations. Just. Just remember that. I know I&#8217;m kind of slow sometimes&#8230; okay, maybe extremely slow&#8230; but that does <i>not</i> give you an okay to screw with me! I internalize stuff easily, you know!!</p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
<p>You win. You fucking <i>win</i>, okay? Just. Just leave me alone. <a href="http://dotq.org/tt">T_T</a></p>
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