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your thoughts have summoned this post from hell so, as i pray... Home > Archives > 2009 > January > 07 Preemptive ABA 2009 NominationsYou can read this on THAT if you dislike sensible presentation. Black is lelangir.
Red is lolikitsune. “Ne, lelangir-san, lelangir-san~!” “Nani, eruke?” “For the awards, do you nominate your favorites or the ‘objective’ best?”“wut” Here, lolikit and lelangir take a look around the ‘sphere and discuss whom they would nominate for what if the Anime Blog Awards were to take place this instant. We only address those categories we thought would give us things to talk about, and, of those, some are more organized than others. Please weigh in with your own thoughts on the topics at hand in the comments, as this is more than a popularity contest. Editorial is a broad term. I guess in my own view, you have the bateszi/IKnight/Lawson style of commentary, and then there are the more analytic pieces. Not that styles and bloggers are mutually exclusive, of course. Lawson-style is, in more cases than not, just fanboying about something with airy diction that makes said fanboying sound harmless. All the while it infects his readers and turns them into automatons of love and moe! It is a disease! A diseeeeeeeease!! Favorite (non-meta) commentary: IKnight & bateszi. I’m not surprised it’s the brits with the flowerly writing. I don’t read bateszi, I think because Owen‘s hero-worship turned me off. If you hold him in such high regard, maybe I should change my ways? I guess it’s like eating, as IKnight would say, a very dark, rich chocolate cake. Most Thought-Provoking For little old me, thought-provoking in the ‘sphere has come to mean “RyanA, ghostlightning, Cuchlann, and lelangir debating something on a grossly meta level, replete with literary references and the names of psychologists.” That gives me over nine thousand directions to go in for listing blogs, as we’ve got RyanA’s one blog, Cuchlann’s two, ghostlightning’s three four, and… well, I can’t even begin counting all the blogs lelangir posts at. Ten, I think.
Best Meta If there’s one important lesson that the recent crop of metablogging has yielded, it’s that “blogs” don’t define blogosphere content as well as “bloggers” do. As such, it would almost be counter to the teachings of meta-anibloggery to nominate blogs in this category. Actually, fuck hedging. It would be counter to the teachings of meta-anibloggery. [but that's why I said the ABA should nominate bloggers not blogs...] There, I said it. And I make no nominations. I think you’re forgetting ani-nouto and anitations. Yes, author is probably the best meta-blogger out there. If you don’t like his trolling, don’t take him seriously. I’d like to say anitations has great meta value because it’s a proxy. I lens content, as RyanA would say. So far, these are two of a kind… I don’t know if I’m forgetting them; mostly I’m thinking about you guys as bloggers rather than blogs. I don’t see how that makes a difference… It’s hard to divorce lelangir from lelangiricism. Meta-anibloggery essentially preaches separation of aniblog and aniblogger. Wait, we need to expand “meta”. I’d take “meta” for discourse on discourse. Introspection counts too. And in that case, I’d nominate usagijen for her awesome introspections. BigN and Jacob Martin come in close as well. Doesn’t TheBigN say the same thing everytime, though? Something about love, peace, and pancakes? No, =p =p =p =peace =pancakes Q.E.D.. I’ll let you handle this one, lelangir. I don’t read music aniblogs; as far as I’ve heard there aren’t many, they aren’t diverse, and they tend to suck. All yours, capitan. Zzeroparticle. He’s like, the only person that writes consistent music reviews. I don’t think I’ve ever seen musical analysis besides mine either… Then we are agreed: this is a category that actually fails. Yes, that’s kind of a shame, because the music community is so pathetically underdeveloped. I wish it were developed, but sadly, it isn’t… I’d love to see that, too—I hear you’re thinking of starting something up? But – and this is a constant debate in the metaverse – society isn’t up to the level of technology. Usually technology is a product of society. But I can’t just go make a music blog if there’s no plausible readership or niche there. It’s like that Heisei Democracy post where there’s this manga cafe in San Francisco. It can’t work because they’re attempting to transplate Japanese culture in America – they’re trying to force society to adapt to them, and it’s like trying to move an elephant with a toothpick. Makes sense, yeah. Well, best of luck should you try in the future! Rookie of the Year ghostlightning, digitalboy, and lelangir all seem like fairly solid choices to me. I’m not familiar with too many of the newer blogs, but those three are all rookies who bring a fuckton of positive energy to the table. ghostlightning is Mizunashi Akari if she were to fangirl about something. digitalboy is Mizunashi Akari if she were to make home videos and introduce profanity into her vocabulary. lelangir is Mizunashi Akari if she were the biggest slut ever. And as you all know, I love Mizunashi Akari. Yes I am a whore. What? … digitalboy isn’t a rookie? Older than one year. Fuck that shit. He’s a noob, and I’ve got no one to refill his place. The halo glows away… You’re forgetting coburn, pontifus and itsubun – they’re my three picks. It’s a shame that itsubun died off so quickly, but she made quite a large impact on me when I was starting out, especially with the dorama surrounding her and Sasa, lol. The pointless, idiotic drama between two idiots who just can’t leave well enough alone… sigh. Do they at least get points in the drama category? ;) You’d be surprised, I took quite a bit out of some posts, as they really were great food for thought. That was not the impression I got from reading Sasa’s posts and talking to Mr. Pippers. The impression I did get was that some people were overreacting to each other and accomplishing little. There was one post by adventure_killy which was one of the most insightful posts I’ve read to date. It really got me thinking about the “location” of the otaku, and how we use loan words and how culture is transplanted.
Best Team Blog: I’m stumped. Did we decide there are no true team blogs? OH! is trying to be one, other aggregate blogs aren’t trying, and whorish team bloggers are sort of wrecking the status quo’s shit. Fun stuff! Yes, I haven’t seen any true tream blogs, per se (I don’t know if epicwin counts), though many blogs and their constituent bloggers exhibit teamwork. Oh. Epic Win! Why did I forget them? They definitely count. GO TO EPIC WIN!! GO TO EPIC WIN!! I’ll show you the true meaning of epic win… Most Influential
Best Dorama I make a point of ignoring this shit as best I can because more often than not it’s sparked by spiteful elitists. My favorite drama would be Omo x Owen on Twitter, but does that count? I don’t know; it’s certainly not a blog, though. Perhaps we could award Owen with something for sparking so much drama (he was getting me good, at least, in mid-November), but that might be erring on the side of “too close to home.” Actually, these past few months, I’d give best dorama to a sort of plane of bloggers revolving around the fansub thing, Von Schilling et al. It even gets IcyStorm all hot and bothered. Oh yeah. SVS. Sigh. I guess… I guess I WOULD give him this award. (Let’s see how that affects his self-perception as “ever lovable.”) Best Satire Obviously I think I should win in this category. I won’t make any nominations here because I don’t want it to look like I’m setting up losers, but I will gladly comment on lelangir’s picks. I also like lolikit’s satire because, while it is hilarious, it is also lucid and insightful. Though I enjoy lolikit’s meta-satire moreso than when he satires anime. Of course Baka-Raptor is up there when he makes fun of anime. Who’m I kidding? Baka-Raptor is a king of satire. Hinano is also quite sharp quite frequently, as is JP (and now that they’re on a single blog it’s only one nomination! Take that, blogger’s bloggers!). I was never really into HINANO RAEG… Her blog posts are usually better than her tweets. Maybe it’s just the emoticons? They make me laugh while thinking, “man, this shit she’s posting about, it’s so shitty.” You know I’d put IKnight up here too. His satire is subtle (it’s British), but boy is it hilarious. Didn’t he quit blogging or something? lol he’s been alive for quite a few posts now. He was pretty active while in blogohiberation anyway. Not to say inactivity’s going to stop me from making my third nomination in this category…
“WHORE! WHORE!“ AAAAAND that’s it. This is lolikit bee tee dubz, stealing lelangir’s color briefly. Just wanted to wrap stuff up with extremely awkward and un-funny words such as these. I hope you read everything, as there’s some good stuff up in there. Again, please weigh in on the “discussion”—this is more than a popularity contest; there’re issues addressed in the above with implications affecting the entire ‘sphere. Also, could we get some applause for Google Documents? An omiclap, perhaps? Thank you. |
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Omisyth said:
Delicious post is delicious. Recently became a fan of superfani, they make me feel ashamed to read what I read.
CJ said:
Will you accuse me of being a whore if I admit that I Ctl+F’d my name again?
Baka-Raptor said:
If you’re scouting for music-related anime blogs, check out Ongaku. I just started reading it because it’s doing a Yuki Kajiura month.
jpmeyer said:
Tangential but I tooooooootally see things the opposite way with regards to blogs vs. bloggers. There are so many aspects of the blog format (everything from RSS feed setup to blog theme formatting to feed settings, SEO, etc.) that subtly subsume the writer to the blog itself.
Now that I think about it, I see it as neither true for blogs nor for other forms of writing like say, scholarly journals. Then again, the problem arises more from a failure of focus or branding. Why post at one of the over 9000 blogs you post at over another unless they are all indistinguishable?
(Also, I see metablogging as the ultimate subsuming of author to blog, although I am looking at the author of the metablog rather than the author of the blogs being blogged about. Perhaps the supreme irony here is that anitations is the one blog that I most strongly associate with lelangir.)
lolikitsune said:
@Omisyth: thanks, we spent a lot of time making it as awesome as it was. Also, props to you for Omiclap™.
@CJ: whore.
@Baka-Raptor: thanks for the link, will check out.
@jpmeyer:
That’s all the result of habit. Blogs can be more about the author(s) and less about the blog; it’s just a matter of designing things to be differently focused.
It is because they are different than people would post at different sites, right? Like, ghostlightning posted about his pedophilia on this site, not WRL.
jpmeyer said:
Why make an identical post on two different sites which have very different focuses? That’s brand dilution on multiple axes.
lelangir said:
@jpmeyer: For what it’s worth, disassociating blogger from blog when considering single-author blogs is pointless. Animanachronism changes to IKnight…and…how much have we progressed?
So the blogs subsuming of the author in single-author blogs is inevitable. As I said here, in the ‘sphere, existence is predicated upon communication, not vice versa. So it’s unavoidable that a connection be established between an author and the content for his/her posts – unless they don’t have a blog, and, well, that’s impossible.
But I had recently realized that blogs don’t exist. If OH suddenly went down, do you think anything would happen? Each blogger would just go back to their home blogs. What substantiates the existence of bloggers is their readership. If THAT went down, a fair number of bloggers would be homeless, but they would still exist in the minds of the readership, but this ethereal readership would not be centered nor anchored around a stable, communicative base, the blog.
The readership is kind of like a school of fish, swimming around randomly, and the blog is a fishing net that stabilizes the fish’s movement and orders it in a “visible” shape.
And as per this post, the visible real estate of blogs is what constitutes most of the ‘sphere (archives and memory would be the meat of the ‘sphere).
Posting at over 9000 blogs is just an attempt to catalyze traffic flows. That’s why I link to the post before that, to throw down a visible fishing line that these fish can track, creating a path that aligns my disparate nexistence. Of course, traffic itself means nothing, and hopefully people frequent the blogs I post at because of other authors, or something. Then there’s this.
Yeah, anitations is surely grounding my identity. Not like that’s a problem, I think. I never think of the bloggers-in-observance when I read ani-nouto. It’s just author, author, author.
lelangir said:
@jpmeyer: To overlap readership. THAT’s readership and MMoM’s are not 1:1 – so when we post here, a set number of people are exposed to it, and when it’s on THAT, a number of people are exposed to it. To readers like you and others, who are exposed to THAT and MMoM, this is purely noise (noise is redundancy). But for the readers that aren’t in each blog’s broadcasted perimeter, it’s not noise. So the ends justify the means I’d say. A little bit of noise for a larger audience is worth it.
lelangir said:
jpmeyer said:
Why have ghostlighting make a post here rather than WRL about pedophilia here rather than somewhere else if what truly matters is who is saying it? Or, this would indicate to me that the importance is on what is said, not who is saying it. Thus, reason that different readerships exists is because the different blogs provide different things. This would imply to me that the blog and its branding is more important than the author when dealing with blogs where author and blogger are not one and the same.
I’m also iffy about the conceptualization of readers “swimming randomly” (and the “blog stabilizing them” part again emphasizes blog over author!). Swimming where and how? And what “ethereal readership?” If there is nothing to read (again, communication is necessary for being), how can a readership be said to exist?
lolikitsune said:
STOP CALLING THIS SITE MOMM T_T
EDIT: who’s saying it and where it’s being said BOTH matter.
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