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your thoughts have summoned this post from hell so, as i pray... Home > Archives > 2008 > December > 21 12 Days Day 8: Lolikitean Tsundere08
The Shigofumi OVA was easily one of the best OVAs I’ve ever seen, in stark contrast to the last OVA I mentioned in this series. It did so much in terms of expanding the story of its show without, you know, reincarnating its characters or changing their personalities. Anyway. Fumika rocks. I can tolerate her brand of tsundere—not too pronounced, neither end of its spectrum dazzlingly extreme. It’s the brand of tsundere that’s kind of realistic and believable, stemming from conflicted feelings (as opposed to, say, the tsundere of Louise of Zero no Tsukaima, which is just there as a contrived moe device). It’s reasonable, and, as we all know, lolikitean means reasonable. |
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ghostlightning said:
While reasonable does not necessarily translate into realistic, I dispute the assertion that there are no tsundere in reality.
Someone said (I think it was Lelangir) that tsundere do not exist. They do.
Tsundere in reality just occurs differently than how they are portrayed in anime – meaning the tsun tsun appears later rather than sooner.
This is due to how we humans would rather put our best foot forward. When you start dating, all you see is dere dere, it’s when the familiarity has set in, when there are commitments that hold you together, making authentic behavior less risky to display, you get tsun tsun more often.
The dere dere behaviors will still be there, though not as frequent as when you start going out.
picchar said:
I was reading this post and ghostlightning’s comment when I suddenly wondered…
Can guys be moe?
Baka-Raptor said:
Fumika is so moe <3
lolikitsune said:
@ghostlightning: … I didn’t say that tsundere doesn’t exist. I just said that almost every portrayal of it in anime is bullshit. Furthermore the phenomenon you are referring to would be deretsun and is present in almost every human relationship, where, as people become closer and spend more time together, they become more aware of each other’s flaws and like each other less.
@picchar: yes, they can be. Ex: Tomoya in Clannad.
@Baka-Raptor: yes.
Zeroblade said:
Tomoya is… Moe…?
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ghostlightning said:
You didn’t say it, Lelangir did. I was unaware of deretsun being a trope/meme.
Hmmm, must think this through further.
@ picchar
Saotome Alto was tsun tsun for Sheryl Nome up to a certain point. I don’t know if that’ll count as moe.